Not Good.

Grease Tickets Money · Member

Not Good.

Ray · Senior Member

You have made a striking debut. Welcome. Your post is amusing, and I don't believe a word of it....well, maybe a word.
You must be immensely wealthy to not care about trashing your own investment....a "significant" investment at that!
I respectfully decline your recommendation of "a real Broadway show".

Maxismylove · Senior Member

My thoughts exactly Ray.

Just think though about how much money you are going to make from all these kids and the fact that you dont have to go and see it again and you should be just fine.

Grease Tickets Money · Member

I have already made back my investment in the show. Whats left now to sell is gravy. I just hope I can actually flip a nice profit. All of my sales were done before the first night of previews. Have not sold anything since. This cant be a good sign. Even the parking attendants who hear everything said they didnt hear 1 good thing, and they are right next to the theatre. A competitor of mine who knows what he is talking about, said it was very bad as well.

THEcritic · Newbie

I saw last nights performance and i have to disagree. I thought all the performers did a good job. Of course i have both positive and negative things to say about the show, buts its an early preview, and i think so far they're in good shape. Max suprised me. I don't think he would've got the role without the reality show, but he sang and acted the role very well. By the end of the show, i believed he was danny zuko. Laura sang very well and looked very cute, but was forgettable and didn't add much. I loved the opening, grease is the word is much better than the old alma matter song. Other favorite numbers were Grease Lightning, the car and choeograhpy was really fun and Mooning with great singing and acting by Roger and Jan. Overall, i think there's some timing issues to work out with the comedy, because a lot of jokes didn't play, but with still a month left til opening, im sure they'll figure it out. The shows very entertaining and i can see why major theatergoers would knock it down, but i think most will enjoy it. I didn't waste my money.

DogsandBirds · Guru

"I have a substancial amount of interest in this show including a significant amount of money invested. I did not like the show. I am a seasoned broadway goer. I know great A rated Broadway when I see it. This, unfortunately was not it. This was a C caliber show. Slightly better then your highschool performance. The sets could have not cost more then 100 thousand dollars. The protagonists were weak. And this is coming from someone who did not watch 1 minute of the show."

Grease Ticket Money - you invested and are bad mouthing the show? HA HA HA!

No investor would do such a stupid thing - go away and leave us be. I loved the show and while I would agree the seats are a bit small, the show is big enough to compensate! And you say you haven't seen a minute of the show? Then HOW would you know?

Go back to Broadwayworld and be the shill for Legally Blonde there!

Maxismylove · Senior Member

Grease Tickets Money wrote:

I have already made back my investment in the show. Whats left now to sell is gravy. I just hope I can actually flip a nice profit. All of my sales were done before the first night of previews. Have not sold anything since. This cant be a good sign. Even the parking attendants who hear everything said they didnt hear 1 good thing, and they are right next to the theatre. A competitor of mine who knows what he is talking about, said it was very bad as well.

Oh, so you are a scalper?

DogsandBirds · Guru

He doesn't want to make more money, just get his initial investment back? Some financial wizard this guy must be!

Grease Tickets Money · Member

The way the show opened was horrible. Thats when I knew it was going to be a disaster (like trumo would say, lol!)

THe first song was WAY to long and boring. If it was 3 mins long I would say GREAT, but its like 7-8 mins long and I was already getting figity.

Yea, I capitalized on a hole in the system

Grease Tickets Money · Member

Dogs - whether I like the show or not, doesnt effect my sales. I can look at my stats and state that ever since the show opened in previews sales have been drastically down. Therefore its safe to assume that a break even situation is the worst case scenario and not necisaraly (sp) likely.

DogsandBirds · Guru

You are obviously a financial wizard. Are you really Donald Trump in disguise?

Spelling is the least of your problems!

Ray · Senior Member

I'm glad you recouped your investment before the show folds, which could be any minute.

Grease Tickets Money · Member

Its advance is pretty good, however ticket holders from jan 08 - june 08 will probably end up getting refunds when it closes.

themusicman · Veteran Member

Grease Tickets Money wrote:
I would not recomend this show to ANYONE other then big Max and Laura fans, even then you might have trouble with the show. Frankly its boring. The songs are weak.

The 2 winners will not have a future on broadway. This show would be about 1000 times better if it had a amazing broadway star as Danny.

If you are looking for a real broadway show, I highly recomend Legally Blonde. That show is a A. It's TRUE broadway with a true broadway star, Laura Bell Bundy, and not 2 wannabes.

Let's cover most of the ludicrous points you've made.

1. The songs are not weak. They're just as good or even better than the movie

2. The producers made the choice to cast by reality show. David Ian knows what he is doing. You're engaging in hyperbole in saying another actor would be better one thousand times over?

3. Calling Max and Laura wannabes is sour grapes on your part. They're headliners on Broadway and in EW's Top 100.

Stop trippin', chico.

Ray · Senior Member

This thread takes me back to the good ol' days.......
Like...after The Finale, somebody posted that Ticketmaster had to hire extra people to handle all the requests for refunds.
Now, ticket sales have come to a screeching halt, and The End is near....oooooooooo....

-- Edited by Ray at 23:51, 2007-07-27

NYC9758 · Veteran Member

Messageboard trolls...it's like trying to stamp out the entire population of cockroaches in NYC.

MrE1111 · Guru

This is turning into my new favorite thread.

So you're an investor...you invested money in tickets that you're now scalping.

There's no parking garage by the theater (unless you're talking about the one all the way down the block).

MissKay · Member

You have quite an imagination and are very entertaining. I had a good laugh. biggrin

reniefran · Senior Member

There's an old saying. "The proof is in the pudding." I would expect that a show that is newly opened might have some kinks to work out but you might check out some of the other posts on this board. There are in my humble opinion more positive reviews than negative ones. You sound like an angry person. Why I don't know. No one surely forced you to sell those tickets or held a gun to your head and told you that you had to go see Grease. You are entitled to your opinion but the way that you expressed yourself was mean spirited and I think maybe you would be better off on another message board. If you were a student in my class I would send you to the principals office.

DogsandBirds · Guru

If he were in my class, I would flunk him for spelling!

reniefran · Senior Member

fol biggrin

dlz7 · Member

re: not good
As Miss Kay, I too had a good laugh, I assumed it was ment to be funny. If you wanted people to take your critique seriously you would have chosen your words more carefully and softened your tone.

Future_Sandy · Veteran Member

Wow. At this message board, your opinion is not very appreciated. This is a message board for FANS. Yes, fans. The people who love the show and actors. We don't need some scalper who can't spell and is obviously a little jealous. Go to a critic board or something where you can state your opinion to people that actually want to hear it. And here's a little tip: try not to be so mean when you say an opinion. It's one thing to say your opinion nicely and calmly, and another thing to completely bash the show and actors.

spectropluto · Newbie

regardless of anyone's feelings on this production, I think ANYone who goes to see this show needs to remember one thing; and one thing only...

it's GREASE!

you're not going to see "Phantom" or "Les Miz" or "The Color Purple" or even "Hairspray". You're watching "Grease".

I am not saying this to set-up any kind of bad message or bad reviews (I have yet to see it). But I did see the Tommy Tune production 10 times (8x in NYC and 2x on tour). I loved it. Grease is fluffy fun. Again, I don't know how this revival treated the ending (DOES Danny join the track team?), but just go see Grease for some eye candy and pretty songs. It's like when all those foreign visitors go see CATS and Phantom (a pal of mine who worked for ticketmaster asked a tour leader "Why do you bring these people who don't speak english to see these shows??" and his response was "They like the pretty melodies and the spectacle of it all.")

That's Grease.

If you walk away humming and tune or boppin' in your seat, even better! Honestly, Grease holds very little redeeming moral value ("Change yourself and you'll get the boy/girl of your dreams...and try not to have a pregnancy scare!"), but most people (even KIDS) know that it's just FUN. Like going to a rock concert. Are you a dumb theatre-go'er for seeing this show? NO. You just want a show that's fun and mindless and makes you smile. biggrin

Do I agree with ticket prices being $100+ for 2 and a half hours of entertainment? HECK NO! (that's a WHOLE 'nother ball of wax!)...but you work with what ya got! go to TKTS! get back mezzanine seats!

But no matter where you sit; just throw on your poodle skirt, pedal pusher, jeans, and PF Flyers and have a good time!

-- Edited by spectropluto at 05:45, 2007-07-31

Mrs N · Senior Member

I think the following info (from Peter Filichia' Diary July 13 on theatremania.com) affirms spectropluto's message about Grease's value as a fun show...

I think that musical theater historians of the late 21st century will forgive us post-9/11 audiences for responding to such escapist entertainment. Of the 60 new-to-Broadway musicals that have opened since that infamous date, 44 of them - almost three-quarters - have been predominantly light shows with entertainment fully or mostly on their minds. Of the 16 others - which included Sweet Smell of Success, Assassins, Caroline or Change, Dracula, Lennon, The Woman in White, Lestat, Tarzan, The Times They Are A-Changin, Grey Gardens, The Pirate Queen, and LoveMusik - only Movin Out, The Light in the Piazza, The Color Purple and Spring Awakening havent taxed their managements red ink supplies. The terrorists didnt have Broadway on their minds when they attacked, but they may well have inadvertently affected it. While people once liked to laugh when they went to a show, now they really need to.

spectropluto · Newbie

Thanks, Mrs. N! Great find! biggrin

reniefran · Senior Member

Thanks so much what a breath of fresh air. You did put some perspective back when you said Grease is about fun! I think we need a little more fun in our lives life can be way too serious some time and a good laugh is better than any nerve pill or doctor visit. When you laugh it's like giving your innards a work out so I say go to see Grease have a good time and feel better! Bravo for such a fun post! You made my day! biggrin

Luc · Member

Grease Tickets Money wrote:

If you are looking for a real broadway show, I highly recomend Legally Blonde. That show is a A. It's TRUE broadway with a true broadway star, Laura Bell Bundy, and not 2 wannabes.

You're.... kidding, right? NO ONE in their right mind should pay to see tha show. ashamed

gomaxgo · Member

I completely agree with spectropluto. I saw Phantom for the first time the night before seeing Grease. I did keep in mind that they were two very different types of musicals. Grease is just a fun toe-tapping, wanna sing along, wanna dance along type of musical. Of course the eye candy was great too. BTW, Max looks darn good in a pair of jeans! I had a lot of fun!

Maria15 · Veteran Member

I just have a question for all this people who HATE the show, If you hate it, why do u come here and say it, obiusly, the people who's in this chat LOVE the show and all the people who works there, so, don't you have anything more interesting to do?
Sorry I don't want to sound rude

XOXO MARIA SPAIN

DogsandBirds · Guru

It's ok to post differences of opinion here Maria. Broadway shows are like anything else. Some love one thing, while others hate it.

Most of us are here because we do love Grease and a few nay sayers may be allowed to express their views. This is, after all, a free chat site and America!

Hello799 · Senior Member

Well, I leave for NYC in less than 24 hours and I will be going to the Tue. night performance. I will be able to give a different perspective than alot of other people. I have never been to a Grease performance before nor have I seen the movie. All I know about it is what I have been reading here on this forum. I will post what I can, when I can.

Kait · Senior Member

Maria, yes, I don't know what the attitudes are in Spain, but here in America we love to reiterate that right to free speech. It IS a good thing. I just wish more folks would find value in restraint. (And I'm speaking generally, here. I'm not speaking specifically to any GreaseonBroadway posters.)

Yes, I tend to think of this as a fan site, too, but it is actually just a discussion thread. Some people might come here looking for opinions about the show from attendees who aren't huge fans. Maybe they are thinking about going to see it, but aren't sure. As a fan, I'll be thrilled just to see Max, Laura and the others perform. A non-fan will have different expectations.

Kait · Senior Member

Hope you have a great time, Hello. We can't wait to hear your unique perspective.

Luc · Member

Maria.
Internet Forums were made so that people could discuss certain topics - whether they are a "fan" of the topic or not. In my opinion, it is reasonable to hear anyone's opinion on anything, as long as it is legitimate and they support their statement with facts.

It's really not that hard to understand... I explained it and I'm a 14 year-old boy. *shrugs*

greatwhiteway · Senior Member

Then, i guess, Maria has the right to express her opinion as well.

-- Edited by greatwhiteway at 02:27, 2007-08-06

Luc · Member

greatwhiteway wrote:

Then, i guess, Maria has the right to express her opinion as well.

-- Edited by greatwhiteway at 02:27, 2007-08-06

Yes, she is definitely allowed to. But she asked a question, so I answered it to the best of my ability.

Hello799 · Senior Member

Lets just say WOW!!!!! I am now back at the hotel. I will post more when I have time. I had no problem following this production from start to finish. It made sense to me. I was able to follow every scene. I did NOT think the second act moved to slow. I will definitely post more when I get back home. Let me just say, IMHO this production will stay open for at least a year. It would not surprise me if Max and Laura would have to sign extensions on their contracts.

TAKE CARE!!!!!!!

Maxismylove · Senior Member

Thanks for posting Hello799. I was waiting for you to post to see how your wife liked the show and if you got to talk to Max and Laura. Looking forward to a longer account of the birthday trip.

Hello799 · Senior Member

Thanks Rachel. I am still in NYC. When I get back home I will type some more. My wife Nancy loved the performance. Let me just say this

1- A three egg omlette in NYC==$18
2- A cab from the airport to the hotel==$50
3- A night stay at a hotel==$250
4- Being entertained by Max and Laura for 140 minutes===PRICELESS!!!!!!

Maxismylove · Senior Member

Hello, did she get to meet them?

Hello799 · Senior Member

Rachel, no she did NOT meet either one. She was a little disappointed. But all-in-all, she loved the trip. We are completely exhausted!!!!!!!! We did meet Alli though. As we stood in the crowd of people, we talked with her for about 5 minutes. Seeing we were not able to talk to Max or Laura, we had asked Alli to pass along a message from us. Hope she does it.
Thanks and Take Care!!!!!!

LinMark · Newbie

My husband and I just got back home to NH after making the trip to NYC today to the 3:00 showing. We thought Grease was fantastic and all performers were extremely talented and full of energy. We watched the show on tv "You're the One that I Want" and feel they picked the right two to play Danny and Sandy. Max and Laura were wonderful as were all the rest of the performers. Congratulations to the whole cast and all involved in the production. Terrific performance as evidenced by the standing ovation and enthusiastic crowd. Keep up the good work. Your families should be very proud.

FonZuko · Veteran Member

This has become more of a Max and Laura site than a Grease site. They are A PART of the cast. Leading roles, but there are others. The main reason grease has been such a gripping show over many generations (and movie for those more inclined to like the tainted version of a once great show) is because everyone could relate with at least one of the characters. Phoenix Productions (which has a hand in this production somehow) did a better job with their touring company which toured the US and Asia for 2 years with non equity actors I may add. This particular version has music that is just forgettable. I have seen over 5 different professional productions over time and I would have to say, this one is the LEAST favorite for me as I didn't come out of the theater singing the tunes or even remembering the new arrangements with the exception of how rushed You're The One That I Want was( Which for any true grease stage fan shouldn't be on a stage version of this show). Lets not forget the actors did what they could with what they have, I in no way intend to target any criticisms at the actors themselves as they did their best. I do however intend to spear the production as a whole for taking the humor, 50's feeling and vibrant spirit that this show used to have, making you want to go out and buy a bunch of 50's albums because the music rocked. Not in this production. The movie is the movie, but the play is the play. People have the moviei at home, people are paying to see THE PLAY, not some stage version of the movie. I for one will never be satisfied with this movie conversion.

-- Edited by FonZuko at 12:43, 2007-08-20