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Max and Laura were recently asked in an interview what other shows they would "die" to be in. Laura said 'Wicked" and Max said "Spring Awakenings." What shows would you "die" to see them in? For me, I would just love to see Laura as Ariel in Little Mermaid (which dates back to memories from her childhood for me). I think I could have been an animation story writer as I have a keen imagination for bringing inanimate objects to life. As a child I gave countless stuffed animals a very well developed personality and voices to go with them! (O.K., no jokes about that explaining anything about Laura. Ha!) Because of that, when I see shows like Little Mermaid or Toy Story it just delights me. I just love Flounder and Sebastian especially in Little Mermaid, and totally could have written the song from Toy Story II when the little girl is ready to give her doll away. Oh my...I'll be a fun grandmother someday! And if you ever read a children's story about a teddy bear's day in the washing machine, I just might be the author! I hope Little Mermaid's re-working that has been taking place will make it a fabulously successful show--them maybe someday Laura can play Ariel!

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I could not agree more about Laura as Ariel. I have been thinking about taking my kids to see this in conjunction with our next trip to see Grease. I saw the interview with some of the cast and one thing they mentioned was that this retelling of Mermaid plays out the theme of losing your "voice" as a girl/female and then regaining it and realizing you will never compromise yourself ever again in that way. Great message for girls, young and old! Laura as Ariel would be amazing, she is born to play that role. I thought of her immediately when I heard that it was coming to Broadway!! Although I think she would also be amazing as Glinda in Wicked......or any role that calls for an amazing, sweet and pure voice and spunky personality.
As for Max, that's tougher. I think he would love a role in Spring Awakening, which I haven't seen so I can't speak to. Hmmmmmm..................I'll think on that one.....I like him so much as Danny its hard to refocus yet......

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Jane,
I think Laura would be absolutely perfect as Ariel no doubt or as Belle in Beauty and the Beast. I would also like to see her in Peter Pan. I loved the clips of her in the production in Minnesota or even Maria in West Side Story.
Max is a little tougher. I don't know a thing about Spring Awakenings. If there were a Broadway rendition of Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella he would make a perfect prince.
I also think he would be awesome in a piece about James Dean.  Since I know little to nothing about Broadway that's my input.
Well there you have it. In any case I can't wait to see what else the future has in store for our wonderful young stars.smile

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I could see Laura doing Little Mermaid and/or Mary Poppins. If Beauty and the Beast were still around, I'd throw that in, as well. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be back in, oh, three years when it can qualify as a revival. I can't honestly say Wicked, since I don't know how high her register is.

Max, I don't know about. Perhaps something in Spring Awakening would fit - Melchior or Moritz (though I'm not a fan of the production).

Either way, I'd love to see them both go from Grease to a play, either a drama or comedy, perhaps off-Broadway. They may like doing musicals a lot, but to be pigeonholed as a "musical theater performer" is detrimental to a career.

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Either way, I'd love to see them both go from Grease to a play, either a drama or comedy, perhaps off-Broadway. They may like doing musicals a lot, but to be pigeonholed as a "musical theater performer" is detrimental to a career.



Good advice, I think. I would add that because there has been so much said of Laura doing Grease elsewhere and the TV production, and all the promos showing her sing mostly up tempo and "princess" pieces she is probably more at risk to be type cast in such roles.

Our fan enthusiasm makes us blind to such danger since many of us feel she can do "anything!" And it is a danger since being typed as that could mean she will get less shots at something else.

For example: I like the new production "Hopelessly Devoted" very much but its new more up-tempo and jive arrangement does not give the public a chance to see her put out the pathos and worry that the TV production did in that number (I loved the little catch in her voice) or the pure sensuality she showed in "Fever." As Jim Jacob said after Fever, "Oh my!"

Take note of the different setting for Hopeless in the movie. The setting alone made Olivia look vulnerable and made the audience want to reach out to her. I don't think that was any accident.

Even if she stays in musicals I would hope she gets a chance to try something heavier that will show the full spectrum of not only her voice but her personality. Then, being successful in something different than Grease or similar light roles will open a whole lot more doors. I don't think there is much worry about her handling something different if she just gets the chance.

A lot of this doesn't apply as much to Max because his Grease role has given him a chance to show more plus he has played a bit more variety of roles in the past.

And for God sakes they should let people see her beautiful hair, beautiful eyes, and the lovely soft lines of her face. I understand the reasons why, but I hate the garish wigs and red lipstick they make her wear. And they should let the public hear her nervous little giggle and her soft and genuine laugh as we did when she was talking to the judges and messing around backstage in the TV clips.

Well there. I guess I said more than I intended to but she is just a great package of talent and potential.

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Forgive me for asking the obvious but why? I mean if it's what you enjoy doing and you're good at it Does it really matter? I like both musical and non musical productions. But in my opinion if you pick a musical that also has a good story line then it is the best of both worlds. Two of my favorites are West Side Story and Man of LaMancha. They are wonderful musicals and yet the story is wonderful as well. I loved the book the play was based on for Man of LaMancha because it deals with chasing an impossible dream but yet what is any of us without a dream? And of course West Side Story is based on the musical Romeo and Juliet, set in modern America with rival gangs instead of rival clans.
I guess my thought would be if it is detrimental in whose eyes and why is it detrimental? I guess I'm looking for a good discussion Mr.E. In the final estimation if what you're doing brings audiences to see you week after week then you must be doing something right. While others may vote on a ballot theater and movie goers vote by buying a ticket.
I know that Max and Laura will do many other wonderful things besides musical theater but I don't see that it is a bad thing if it's what you like, no change that if it's what you love.
Oh and I was thinking, I don't know what Wicked is all about either but if it's a kind of Wizard of Oz story then Max would make a perfect Tin Woodmen.
Okay, that's my two cents.smile

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When I saw Grease, the moment Laura started out her role as Sandy, I thought she had the voice of Belle (Beauty and the Beast) and she could fill the role visually too!! I'm glad too see others are saying that too.

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Wicked is the story of Glinda, the good Witch and Elphaba (a subtle reference to L. Frank Baum, the Wizard of Oz writer), the green girl who becomes Wicked Witch of the West. It's based on the novel by Gregory Maguire, who has made a career on spinning off and doing "untold stories" of the classic tales - Cinderella, Snow White, etc.

Good discussion time:

I said don't be pigeonholed as a "musical theater performer" for a number of reasons. Look at 4 of the great theatrical performers of the day - Patti LuPone, Audra McDonald, Nathan Lane, Kevin Kline. Why are they well known? Musicals.

Patti LuPone won a Tony for Evita and a Drama Desk for Anything Goes. But she's also won acclaim for drama and comedy - Noises Off (a slapstick, door slamming farce) and Master Class (where she played opera legened Maria Callas).

Audra McDonald has 4 Tonys and countless other awards. Two of them are for musicals - Carousel and Ragtime. The other two are for dramas - Raisin in the Sun and Master Class. And, as anyone who's a fan of Private Practice knows, she's the best part of that TV program, as well.

Nathan Lane - 2 Tonys - The Producers (his star-making role) and Funny Thing...Forum. He's done a slew of plays, as well. Man Who Came To Dinner was filmed for PBS. He was in the film version of Love! Valor! Compassion, as well as the stage version. He's coming back to Broadway in January, playing the President of the United States in David Mamet's new play, "November."

Kevin Kline - all around renaissance man. Legendary actor (not a very nice person, but that's neither here nor there). Academy Award winner for slapstick farce, A Fish Called Wanda. Has starred in every genre of film there is. Won 2 Tonys for musicals - Pirates of Penzance (he played opposite Linda Rondstat) and On The Twentieth Century (holding his own against Imogene Coca, John Cullum, and Madeline Khan). Renowned for his Shakespeare - won a Tony for his Falstaff in Henry IV, has done nearly every Shakespeare play, and is currently back on Broadway in an incredible performance of Cyrano de Bergerac.

As a performer, you can have your favorite genre. If you want to be a completely well-rounded actor, you have to go out of your comfort zone. Of course, you could fail. But you could also succeed very well. Audra McDonald has done numerous interviews saying how terrified she was of doing Master Class, a drama, playing opposite the legendary Zoe Caldwell (and then LuPone). But she did it, and won a Tony for it.

And then I suggest off-Broadway for one big reason: Broadway is great, but there are incredible things to be seen off-Broadway, from Shakespeare to experimental work. Spring Awakening started downtown at the Atlantic Theater Company. Grey Gardens started at a lovely theater called Playwrights Horizons.

Broadway is all about money. That's why half of the musicals which opened in the past 2 years have been based on movies. Familiar properties that people will (mostly) want to see. It was Avenue Q which opened the door for Spelling Bee, Spring Awakening, as well as shows opening later this season like In the Heights and Passing Strange. I saw no reason to revive Grease except to make money. And this production clearly is a moneymaker.

If actors really want to hone their skills, they have to have a diverse background. They can do musicals. Grease is a great starting point for Max and Laura. Perhaps they'll want to do another musical as their next project. But to make a career doing musicals? Gotta broaden the horizons. Do a Shakespeare in Central Park one summer. It's hot, it's tiring, but it's incredibly rewarding. Do an experimental piece. Do an old-timer, 3-act, 3-hour comedy.

Every little bit helps.

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After watching Legally Blonde I could totally see Max in that. It's so witty and energy filled. I think he could play Emmett.

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Well if I were Max or Laura I would try to parlay my current popularity into something other than live acting. The only thing I would regret about that would be not using the great voice. Laura is more complex in Grease than meets the eye. She goes from meek, to sweet to self righteous to vamp. Maybe Mr E is right when he says she should do something different. I also think a Legally Blond type of role would be great for her.

I still think Max would be good in the typical Tom Cruise strong yet vulnerable type of character. He has the smart alec attitude tempered with a cute, sweetness that lets you forgive any shortcomings.

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I think Laura would have loads of fun playing Janet in the Drowsy Chaperone...I can imagine her showing off her numerous talents in "Show Off," and I think she's got a bit of that 1920's starlet in her. And yeah, I think she's a natural fit for some of those Disney roles - but I wouldn't want her typecast as a Disney princess forever.

Max - well even though I thought Spring Awakening was great but not that great (really found the choreography either uninspired or pretentious, and some of the lyrics jumped wildly from high poetry to teenybopper dumb - "blah blah blah blah blah etc.," "my junk is you" anyone?), the music itself is just stunningly beautiful and Max's voice would sit very well with either Melchior or Moritz's songs. It might be a smart career move to do something more serious like Spring Awakening as well. Come to think of it, Laura's voice would shine in Wendla's songs as well. What a different theatrical couple that would make!

Or maybe Mark in Rent??

On another note, though I haven't seen Legally Blonde, I can imagine Ashley Spencer doing quite well - she's got a natural can-do cheerful bubbly attitude that screams Elle Woods.

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I haven't seen any of the shows talked about above, so I can't imagine how Max or Laura might be in the various roles. No doubt, they would be fine.

But would it be the best career move to be a replacement in an old show? Yes, if you're Reba and take Broadway by storm.

In the case of Max and Laura, I think it would be preferable for them to go their separate ways, as they are radically different talents and personalities, and do original projects, where they won't be compared with anybody.

I read somewhere that NBC owns them for a year after "Grease"... God help them.




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On the contrary, Ray. It would be a great career move to replace someone. I don't think Max and Laura are big enough names that they'd be hired to headline an original project, which is why, like most up-and-coming theater talent, they have to replace people, just to get their names on the message boards.

Ashley Brown started out as the millionth replacement Belle and now she's Mary Poppins.

Putting Reba MacIntyre into Annie Get Your Gun was stunt casting (putting a celeb into a show as a replacement, so the show will stay open and sell more tickets) at its finest. Max and Laura aren't up to that level of fame yet.

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Although I've yet to see a Broadway show, I can see Laura as Belle or as almost any Princess; she is tiny, beautiful and she has a sweet, pure voice and personality -- but I agree that it might be smarter for her to diversify. As for Max, I see him doing something for a TV comedy, or another movie, perhaps. For some reason, I can see him as Aladdin, but I don't think that's a Broadway show. (?) Yet.

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I see your point about broading your horizons Mr. E. But I still go back to if it's something that you love doing and you really don't care if it gets you lots of jobs doing something else then I would put all my energy into doing that to my uttermost. I do believe in diversifying yourself to make it work for you in different directions. I am proof of that myself. My BA is in secondary education with my major in Spanish, that said I worked for more than 20 years with mentally retarded and developmentally disabled adults currently I am in school for computer netoworking and work two jobs one in a fine jewelry department and the other as a substitute teacher. When I retire in a few short months I intend to do short term mission work. That said I agree that Max and Laura should try different things. How about Max as Cyrano?
As far as them being obligated to NBC it could be dismal or it could be just the thing they need to be seen by the right people for other projects. They could end up doing a meaty drama or even a good sitcom. But I do hope they don't end up doing some drivel to statisfy their obligation. Knowing Max and Laura I know that they will take whatever they are given and do something wonderful with it. I can see the reviews now. "There are a lot of dismal failures in the NBC line-up but the one bright spot in this otherwise dismal line-up is the casting of Max Crumm/Laura Osnes in the supporting role. Osnes shines in the midst of a confusing story line with a gray background. Or Max Crumm has been hailed as the most refreshingly natural, sweet and uproariously funny addition to the NBC series,blah,blah." You get my point. It is a trite saying When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. But it makes a lot of sense. We can choose to moan and complain about how things are or make them work for us to the point when it effects everyone around us. Okay I guess I'll get off my soapbox for now. In case you hadn't guessed I prefer to say in many words what could be said in few.biggrin

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Oh, of course you gotta do what makes you happy. The problem with doing theater, acting in general, is that it's so unsteady, you're thankful for any job you get, good or bad.

Regarding them being stuck with NBC for another year...I can see Max doing a sitcom before Laura. Max strikes me as someone who could diversify, whereas Laura I can see stricty doing theater. Now that they both have their Equity cards, the hardest part is over, since you can't audition for an Equity show without having an Equity card, and you can't get an Equity card without being in an Equity show. It's a very tough process for the up-and-comers.

Or, they can just do two years of Grease and get done with it that way.

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Two years of Grease??!! Even one year of Grease! How do stage performers keep their sanity? Or don't they?

Brando said that he absolutely could not stand the repetition. Imagine having to work yourself up to "Stellaaa!!!!" eight times a week. I suppose the genius actor is a special case. He has options.

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ABC is owned by Disney. I wonder if NBC,which apparently has Laura and Max under some form of contract for the year starting this coming June, would allow Laura to appear in one of Disney's productions (ie-The Little Mermaid) even if that show's producers and Laura wanted her to be a raplacement for Ariel? By the way, I too could easily see Laura fitting into one of the Disney "princess" roles.

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NBC could do their own Princess Musicale. My glycemia would almost surely kick in long before the end, and I would have to go eat half a grapefruit. Unless, of course, Max would be the unconventional Prince Charming.

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Laura and Max would be good in Godspell, the revival is coming out next year. Spiritual Sandy would also be a good choice in that play.

I could see Max as Cornelius in Hello Dolly or Conrad Birdie in Bye, Bye Birdie. He could be Ren in Footloose.

I could see Laura as the eldest daughter in The Sound of Music with her hubby as Rolfe.

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I thought of Laura for Sound of music also only I was thinking she would make a smashing Maria. I can just hear her singing "The hills are alive with the sound of music." Thanks Mr. E for the info concerning Equity. One thing that confused me though was the two year thing you mentioned. Are you saying that no one would look at them until they've been a part of Equity for two years? That would be rough. I can understand your feeling about the princess roles being way too sweet but I saw a version of Cinderella on TV that I absolutely loved. Brandy was the princess and Whoopie Goldberg was her mother. I don't remember all of the actors in the play but the step sisters were a hoot. Also check out Everafter with the girl who played the little sister in ET darned if I can remember her name. Sweet but Cinderella has some bite in this one also. At one point her step sisters are trying on a gown that was her mothers and she says at one point "I'd rather see it rot then have that fat cow wear it." Something like that you get the gist. I think it's all how you play it that makes the difference. How about Once Upon a Mattress. Funny, as you probably know it is a take off on Princess and the Pea. So not all princesses are sweet, some have a little spice as well.
So who knows. It would be really cool if someone wrote a role that was the right parts sassy and sweet with a little grit. Wait I think someone already did. Just joking! Anyway it's been fun chatting. I must finish waxing the kitchen floor before my step mother comes home. LOLbiggrin

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I seem to remember MrE1111 saying he was writing a play that would be perfect for Laura.  How about getting that in an off-Broadway venue when she's available?

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Hopefully Mr. E's play will make it to Broadway. As for Laura I think she skipped the minors. I do think both her name and her voice is big enough to get her a role on Broadway, if she wants it, when she leaves Grease. When even the naysayers on the other board have to admit she can sing...there is not far to go. And I was not her biggest fan in the beginning.

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Renie - It's been widely reported that NBC has Max and Laura under contract for 2 years. That has nothing to do with Equity. The thing about Equity is that, to become a member, you must be in an Equity show. Doesn't have to be in NY, there are plenty of Equity theaters around the country. The thing, though, is that you can't get cast in an Equity show without being an Equity member.

That's the tough part. What many non-Equity actors do is show up to auditions and hope that the casting director will see them once all the Equity people are gone. Most casting people do make a point to see a handful at the end of the day.

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Okay, I thought about what I'd like to see Max in......a romantic comedy, something along the lines of what John Cusack usually does (and he has also done drama and horror, which I could see Max doing as well). I know some are probably bored with hearing me compare the two (MC and JC) but I can't help it (Cusack is a big favorite of mine). I saw the trailer for JC's new movie "Martian Child" today and it was a role I could really see Max in (in many years because it was the role of a mid to late thirties guy). Think of Grosse Point Blank, movies like that. Funny, a little romance with an edge. He definitely seems like he belongs in projects that have humor, warmth and sincerity but with a bit of an edge.....But doesn't it seem a shame for him to not showcase that wonderful singing voice and dancing? Maybe he could occasionaly appear in a musical movie for his fans.....(hmm, just like Travolta).


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I'd also love to see Laura do the lead role in 42nd St. She can tap dance up a storm and has all the determination of that character to make it to the top somehow! It would be physically demanding, but sure fun to watch her!

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Thanks for the clarification. Are they in like flynn now since they've got their card and been in an Equity show. Is there a separate union for film actors?
I'd lilke to know more about your play. What is the theme and a little bit of the story line?

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Now that they've got their Equity cards, they are in like flynn. The can show up to EPAs (Equity Principal Auditions) and ECCs (Equity Chorus Calls) without being turned away.

The Screen Actors Guild is the film actor's union.

My play? It's a comedy which, while blending fact and fiction, revolves around a writer writing about a writing writer. Kinda like Adaptation, only less confusing.

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Of course I would think that Max could take any role and make it good because I have seen his diversity.
I would love to see him in anything that he would really want to do, but, I would really like to see him do a movie or television.
Although I have seen him bring you to tears as a troubled teen (a role he played), he is an incredible comedic actor and a sitcom would be great for him. His facial expressions, his eyes, his eyebrows, his ears and his body (movements) can make you laugh without him even saying one word. He makes his sister laugh so hard, we have to remind her to breath.

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Maxismylove wrote:

He makes his sister laugh so hard, we have to remind her to breath.






My younger brother does that to me too lol

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.... I would really like to see him do a movie or television. Although I have seen him bring you to tears as a troubled teen (a role he played).....



The tv competition and Echoboom are proof enough that Max was made for film. The closeness and intimacy of it give the viewer direct access to his thoughts and feelings, and that's what Acting is all about.

I didn't know that he had played an actual dramatic role, but I knew from the segment on his illness that he has the stuff for drama.


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In thinking about it now, I'd love to see Laura play the role of Niki Harris in CURTAINS, opposite David Hyde Pierce. It's the role of the ingenue - not a terribly large part, but she does get a great soft-shoe with Pierce. Jill Paice is leaving rather soon, so Laura wouldn't be able to go into it, but it's always something to think about.

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We would love to see Max is something like Saturday night live or ER or House or Gossip Girls or Heros or a show like Pushing Daisy's.
On Broadway we could see him in Spring Awakening (most family could not come to that one) the newly cast West Side Story as Riff (is that the right name?).
Of course we would love to see him in anything but mostly would like to see him in comedy.

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Max is wrong for the West Side Story revival. They're going for a completely authentic-looking-and-sounding production (down to changing many of the lyrics to Spanish) - and Max doesn't fit the bill.

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Max is wrong for the West Side Story revival. They're going for a completely authentic-looking-and-sounding production (down to changing many of the lyrics to Spanish) - and Max doesn't fit the bill.






Okay Mr E, I know that Max does not fit the "ethnic" look for the part, but I thought this was a "dream" list that we were doing here. We love that show and that is the part we would cast him in. Don't be such a kill joy Mr E, we are just dreaming here right? I mean that very playfully.
By the way, Max is 1/2 hispanic, but I know he does not look it. The Irish side of him is dominant.
I would also love to see Max as Jack in Into the woods. He was 15 when he did it the first time and I would love to see him do it again.

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Mea culpa!

Max could do Footloose. Easily. Interesting to see if that would ever comes to fruition, even at the Papermill Playhouse.

Remember, if it does, it was my idea first!

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No it wasn't. Max has been saying that he would like to be Ren in Footloose for a few years. He even sent a shout out to Rob Marshall in the EW article that he wanted to do that part in a movie.
That would be a great part for him though.

I would also love to see him do the Grinch again. He was beyond comedic with his physical comedy, facial expressions and his timing. He took Jack to see it last Friday and they both thought it was great.

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Since I don't really keep up with this board, I apologize if this has already been suggested, but Max as J. Pierpont Finch in How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying would be a natural pairing.  Would love to see him in that!

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Seeing all of these pictures with Max wearing his glasses...I'm starting to see Mark Cohen from RENT. The character is a little bit dorky but makes you instantly fall in love with him. Max could totally play that so well. He has the charisma that can capture the audience in the way that Anthony Rapp captured me in the movie and the show (which I was front row for smile.gif).

I can see Laura playing Julia in The Wedding Singer. She is so sweet and can easily portray the secret desires Julia's character has for Bobby over Glenn. I can hear her voice flawlessly singing "Get Out of the Dumpster" (the song where Julia first falls for Bobby after he falls into a dumpster...one of the funniest parts in the show)

-- Edited by karidaberixx at 17:56, 2008-01-06

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