Hi everyone, I'm back!! I had a fabulous weekend in NYC. So fabulous that I almost stayed an extra day! I was on the phone talking to the airline company and the hotel desk.... I just wasn't ready to leave NY yet when there were still so many places and so many shows to see... Anyway, I finally let go of the idea after realizing that there's no way I would ever see NY in 3 days, and 1 more day wasn't going to help. So I packed up and got in the cab for JFK, while plotting in my head already how I'll return again soon!
My sister and I arrived on Thursday night and managed to find each other at the airport. We took a cab into Time Square ($45 set price to any single TS destination, $49 including toll). The traffic was so terrible, we spent over an hour just sitting in TS. Finally we decided to jump off at 50th St. and started our hike (with all our suitcases in tow) to our hotel on 43rd St. This was quite an initiation to NYC. 6:30pm, brighter than you can imagine lights, the noise, the honking, the sea of yellow cabs, and people walking so fast you wonder what important places they must be heading..... Anyway, we made it to our hotel in one piece with only about an hour left before we see Grease. Thank God! BTW, for anyone still looking for a place to stay in TS. We stayed at Casablanca Hotel right off Broadway and 43rd. It was on TripAdvisor as either #1 or #2 hotel in NY, and it was absolutely wonderful. The staff was nicer than any hotel staff I've come across.
Anyway, before I turn this post into a novel, I'd control myself and go right into what I thought of Grease. Keep in mind, this is just one person's opinion, though I've studied musical theatre for a few years in my 20's, this was indeed my first Broadway show. I had expectations because of how much I invested emotionally (I know, it sounds a little crazed!) into witnessing Max and Laura's journey to Broadway. I also had reservations because of every review I'd read these last few months about the show. Right away I noticed the upbeat energy in the theater. Everyone was happy, chatting, flashes going off everywhere (pre-show). We sat at row D, orchestra left aisle seats. We were so close we could see spit flying off the actors' mouths and sweat dripping down their foreheads. I had a smile so wide from the minute I stepped into the theatre 'til the last note of the show died off. It was hard for me to concentrate because how surreal it was to finally see the show in person after waiting since March. Also, watching it from the side I darted my eyes back and forth quite a bit. There were so much going on on stage, you look right you'd miss the left, you look at Max, you'd miss Laura...... Anyway, there were things I'd agree with the critics, I thought the set looked a bit simple. Though after seeing Jersey Boys and Xanadu the following nights, I thought the set was fine. You simply can't compare it to sets from Les Mis or Wicked. The set served its purpose and it worked with how small the stage was and how many actors they had on all the time. The storyline was not the strongest, but I expected that already. My sister, who knew nothing about the play, was quite confused about how it didn't match the movie. I, since I've done my research, was pleasantly surprised by how the storyline differed and unfolded.
Ok, now we must talk about Max for a minute. Going in as a fan, I expected him to do well, but boy, that kid was busy!!!!! I think he was in almost every scene, acting, singing, dancing, sliding, flipping girls, forward roll, backward roll, push-ups, jumping, lending in splits, fixing his hair, doing that goofy walk he always does....... His "Sandy" was simply heartfelt! I had seen Max sing Sandy a few times before in different shows. And with just a mic in front of him, I never quite understood completely his acting choices in the song. Well, on stage, with the car and the direction of where Sandy ran off to, Max pulled it off with such sweetness and a certain awkwardness you only get as a teen...... I have to say I was very impressed. At one point, I even felt a sense of pride. Afterall, I did play a part (though very tiny) in getting him there! :) And Laura, what can we say??!!! Sandy thru and thru. Loved the bedroom scene of her with the Pink Ladies, the scene where she practiced cheering. And I even liked her wig at the end, the wig designer must have fixed it, because it looked so much better than some of her earlier production shots. My only question..... why didn't they just change the script, make up something, write some new songs and get her more stage time??!!! :) Oh, and thanks to Jeb Brown and Stephen Bruntrock, they turned 2 of my least favorite songs (Born to hand jive and Beauty school drop out) into my favorite moments of the show. I think quality DOES come with age!
One more thing, if I had started the show as a fan of Max and Laura, I left a fan of all the other cast members - Robyn Hurder, Lindsay Mendez, Kirsten Wyatt, Daniel (OMG, what a voice!), Jose, Ryan.... I'll be following all their careers on Broadway. And everytime they get into another new show, it'll be another excuse for me to return to NYC!! Oh, I must mention the highlight of my trip. I hate to admit this, but because of my desire to follow the show, I actually created a Myspace account back in May, just so I could be added to some of the cast memebers' pages. Well... while I was at the stagedoor Thurs. night, Robyn Hurder actually recognized me and called out my name, and believe me I almost fell over!!. Then on Sat. night, I had a chance to go back stage after the show to take a picture with Teen Angle and Frenchy (for a donation to Broadway Fights Aids), and once I mentioned to Frenchy that I had flown in from CA to see the show, she looked at me and said, "Are you my Myspace friend??" I nodded, we both screamed and laughed, and she gave me the warmest hug..... As someone who had given up her own Broadway dream 15 years ago, those ladies sure made up for whatever sense of loss I had during my visit!
Knowing this post is probably becoming the longest post ever on this board, I'd have to continue and say that my seeing the show on Sat. night again was just pure joy. We had dead center seats in mezzanine row B. I had finally calmed the butterflies in my stomach of walking into that theater and seeing the show for the very first time... I had the best view of the stage, so I simply sat back and enjoyed every single minute of it. And this time, my smile was even bigger, if that was even possible. And I must add, both times, the show ended with the entire audience giving a standing ovation!
On Sat. night, as I stood at the stagedoor waiting, I caught a few actors sneaking by the crowd to leave the theatre. They were in t-shirts, jeans, some with hats, some with scarves and backpacks hanging..... As I watched them disappeared into the dim street, weaving thru again those lovely yellow cabs, I couldn't believe the quickness and ease in their steps. Did they not realize they had just walked out the stagedoor of a Broadway theater, that they just entertained 1000 people that evening, that they entertain 8000 theatre goers a week??? And yet they just bounced away into the chaos of the NY streets. Is this the story of NYC, that you never know what kind of greatness you brush against as you walk down an avenue?? Wow. You come to NY with stories, and you leave with even more.
So, I hope I haven't bored any of you to tears yet. Again, this is simply a housewife's view, not a great understanding of the theatre world, just a sense of what might touch an ordinary person's heart. For all the critics out there, I, for one, am grateful that GYTOTIW was on TV, and I, for one, will return to NYC for many more years to come.
Go see the show, folks, forget the reviews. Smile, laugh, clap, tap your feet a little. It is just pure fun!!
P.S. I followed much of the advice given on this board. I did the Hop-on-hop-off tour (great, even enjoyed the few hours in the rain with ponchos on), went to Angus McIndoe per MrE1111's suggestion, sat between John Lloyd Young and Jeremy Irons. Had lunch at Trescolori, the Italian restaurant next to the Grease theatre. Even got on the Subway twice. If I can do it, so can you!
Wow, sounds like an amazing trip. Thank You so very much for sharing. As I was reading your post, I actually fantasized about my last trip. Your post was spoken with true grace. Again, Thank You so much
Glad you enjoyed the show...I'd love to hear what you thought of the others.
Re: people who had just performed for 1000 people walking off into the darkness...you never know who the person next to you on the street is gonna be. I worked in what's nicknamed "the Broadway Building," since all the corporate offices and casting agencies are located in it. Every time I'd step into the elevator, or go up to the casting agency's floor, there would be one or two people I recognize, along with 100 others still waiting for that big break. They're just like you and me.
Rae, Thanks so much for sharing your story with us! I, too, found myself reliving my experiences when reading your post. Very well articulated. This whole process, watching YTOTIW, and seeing these actors perform live has been such an exciting experience! And I agree with your wonder in seeing some of the actors pop out into the night and disappear looking more like college students than Broadway stars. Its surreal and very intriguing. The amazing energy that NYC has is just infectious! LIke a shot in the arm for this small town girl!! Can't wait to go back! Thanks again for sharing!
Thanks for responding. It was quite a fabulous, fast-paced weekend. I still can't get over the fact that I've gone and returned already. What am I going to obsess with now?? :)
MrE, I totally enjoyed Jersey Boys and Xanadu, though I wish I had better seats at both shows. I sat way back in the mezzanine to the right during JB. The seats were so cramped, how do taller people do it in a theatre like that? My knees were folded almost to my chest! Still, I was so happy to see JLYoung before he leaves the show, and had the pleasure of meeting him at the stagedoor and sitting next to him at A.M.. Xanadu was just a hoot. Now this time, we were way too close, first row right by the front steps where the actors enter the stage multiple times during the show. My sister and I are short and it was quite intimidating (and silly) to have Cheyanne Jackson towering over us. He must've been 10 ft. tall. We were so close, we could've counted the hair on his calves. The show was hilarious. I loved Kerry's performance, effortless and charming, and she was so darn cute. There's a certain level of maturity and confidence she posseses, which I'm sure Laura and Max will gain as they age.
Oh, a funny thing happened in the Xanadu theatre, I took a picture of the stage before the show started. I didn't think twice about it since people were flashing away in the Grease theatre. Before I knew it, some gentleman in a dark suit tapped my shoulder and explained how it was against the law and that I was subjected to a $5000 fine. He stood over me to look at the pic and watched me delete it. It was a little scary and embarrassing..... I can understand though why they ask you not to take pics during the show. On Sat. night at Grease, during "Beauty School Drop Out", the girl in front of me took a pic, the flash went off at the most dramatic moment during the song. It took away my focus for a few secs. She turned off the flash for the rest of the show, but continued to take pics thru-out the 2nd act. I was so irratated, I kept waiting for an usher to approach her, but nothing happened. Arg!
One more thing I found out about New Yorkers -- They are a whole lot nicer than I expected!!!
What a great trip you had!! You sounded very busy. Did you get exhausted? We want to do so much I am not sure when we will sleep. Would you recommend the restaurant by the Atkinson Thearte? We are thinking of making reservations for Tavern on the Green. Has anyone been there??? Did it rain the whole time you were there?
I don't want to wish it here to fast as it will be over before I know it......
Yes! We were very busy and exhausted, and we kept on going!! All 3 nights I was up 'til at least 3am (could've been the time difference). We never made any dinner reservations and it was a good thing, because we never made it anywhere on time (except the shows). We never had enough time to eat dinner before the show, and ended up eating afterwards and were still out wandering around after midnight. Trescolori by the Atkinson was fabulous. We ate there around 3pm Sunday, just when Grease was starting its matinee showing. Of course we didn't see any of the cast memebers, but it was nice to sit and have a delicious meal and think about what song they must be performing next door at that certain time. One late night, we also walked into a diner called Stardust where all the waiters were actors trying to make it. They took turn singing and all were sooooo good. I finally understood how competitive that world must be, and how passionate, driven and committed one must feel to head to Broadway. Perhaps that's why some weren't so thrilled about how Max and Laura got their big breaks thru a TV reality show.
Oh it did rain for 1-1/2 day we were there. I have pics of us covered in ponchos on top of the double decker bus, looking like wet dogs, totally miserable. But still it was an experience. Of course it was sunny the day we left! Don't forget to bring a scarf (and gloves might be nice too). It got cold and very windy at night.
When are you going again?? You'll have so much fun!!! And yes, it'll go by way too fast!
Yeah, they're very rude and try hard to be intimidating when it comes to photos. I've had worse things happen, so don't be embarrassed!
And yes, we are a lot nicer than many expect.
GLad you had a great trip.
Yup, MrE, you guys are very nice, even the ones in the subway station. They might not flash us a smile, but they all pointed us in the right direction.
One cab driver told us the worst job in the world is to be a cab driver in NYC. Then we asked him how long he's been doing it, and he answered, "7 years....". What gives?? :)
We leave next Wednesday. I am already watching the weather. Thursday doesn't look so nice. You know how the weather can be it can change daily. I don't think we will make any reservations as we will probably change our minds and not want to be committed to anything.
Thanks for the info.....
I had to laugh when you said what will I obsess about now. I have been getting on this site and looking at different NYC stuff for the last few months. It has been fun... I will miss having a trip to look forward to. This has been a dream for years and it is finally almost here.
Rae and Sunnyside, I think most of us on this board never get tired of reading someone's experience at the show and in New York. It just makes me smile every time (sometimes outright laugh) when I read and vicariously re-live all the things you talk about. I honestly love most of all reading different people's comments about the show--even if there's a negative comment at times. We have a large group of theatre friends here in Minnesota and after we've seen a show we often chat uncensoredly for a couple hours more about all the characters and who we liked or didn't like as much and what we thought about the storyline and all the technical things etc.. Part of the fun is we certainly don't always agree! It makes for a great discussion and gives us all a chance to see something through another person's eyes. One of the fun things about "Grease" is that each character is so well developed and so individual (with Sandy actually being about the least developed character in my opinion) that you can walk away from the theatre feeling like you personally knew each one of those kids and that you just got to walk a day with them ithrough the halls of Rydell High. That enchanting fact (and the music) have got to be what keeps this simple story so alive and entertaining through the decades. Thanks for taking the time to share the details of your trip. And Sunnyside, we can't wait to hear from you.
Hi Jane, I think you explained it well why these characters all felt so endearing to us. One thing that struck me was how much fun they were having, they seemed totally geniune in loving and enjoying each other. Laura came across as the baby of the bunch, adored by all. Is that so?? I also have to agree with you that I felt Sandy's character was least developed. I was aware of that fact going into the show, but still wished she had more time to showcase her talent. I guess we'll just have to wait for her next show! BTW, I saw Nathan waiting for Laura at the stagedoor right after the show. It must be comforting for you to know that she's got someone there by her side. I mean, I wouldn't want my daughter wandering the NY streets late at night alone, no matter how safe everyone tells me it is!
I think it's interesting (and this is part of the uncensored chat about what we liked/didn't like) that you all find the characters to be well developed.
My problem with Grease is and always has been the fact that there's so little character development. Perhaps the cast has loosened up since I saw the revival, but I didn't think the production did them any favors.
What I liked so much about the movie was that not only did they come up with a cohesive story, but they beefed up character roles. Sandy is the star of the movie, not the show. She's the least developed of the bunch.
I saw the first preview and have seen the show again as recently as the last couple of days. It has a very different feel now. Whern I asked my one daughter what she thought the difference was she said, " It looks like they rehearsed." What I see is a much more relaxed group of people that come off as real friends enjoying each other's company...This was Marshall's idea and I guess it took a couple of months for the company to really gel together. I hate to keep referring to Max but he has made a big transition in my and my second daughter's opinions. He seems so much more in charge....of both himself and his friends on the stage. He has a great deal more interplay with the other players especially Kinickie, Sandy and maybe Rizzo in that he gives them knowing glances or makes little gestures. His difference makes a big difference in the show as he is a major lead....obviously.
Kinickie has stepped up his performance in my opinion. He seems more into the show than previously. He is a liilte softer when he needs to be....adding more depth to his character.
Again and it is only my amateur opinion, Laura was good from the get go but she is better now. More believable delivery of her lines. She does not sound like she is acting but what she is feeling.
I think this last time I noticed the other characters more. Robyn is a great little dancer in addition to her great looks and singing voice. The guy who loses the dance contest to Danny is a fabulous dancer. Since I took the time to notice who did what this time you could tell how talented he was, doing more compicated and different moves from some of the other cast. Though maybe that's all preplanned as he is supposed to come in second anyway.
I was surprised to see all the interaction between Max and the other characters, I thought some of his finer moments were when he played the supporting role. I was pleasantly surprised as well by some of the other characters. Doody for one, whose recording of Magic Changes didn't impress me (it's hard to be impressed once you heard Sam Harris' version), totally won me over with his stage version. He was exactly what I remember a teenager would be, cute, dorky, insecure and yet full of hope. Robyn sang "Freddy My Love" beautifully. Though I loved her rendition, I was also glad my husband wasn't there. She's every man's dream pin-up girl! On the other hand, I didn't get the depth of the relationship between Sandy and Rizzo that would lead Rizzo to sing "Worse Things I Can Do" with such passion (and hatred). This is where I thought the characters could've been developed more.
There was a difference in the 2 shows I saw. Thursday night, the men looked a bit tired, a couple of them could've used more concealer. Saturday night, Max was slightly unshaven, and he actually looked older. And the show ran smoother with a stronger energy. Oh, and I just loved the music director. It was fun watching him shake. :). A few times I caught myself watching the band instead of the stage.
Anyway, the bottom line is I accomplished what I set out to do, and that was to be entertained. And that's why I chose shows like Grease and Xanadu. Next time in town, I might pick something heavier duty, like Little Mermaid. :)
I have a question! Do actors who are billed as "Principals" but only appear for a few minutes on the show, such as Teen Angel, Miss Lynch and Vince, get paid a full salary??
Salary is on a scale. They all must get paid Equity minimum - about $1500.
Principles, that is, people about the title, or whoever is delineated as a "lead," have the option to get paid more than this, with other perks thrown in in various situations.
Disney is very nice to their leads (Mary Poppins has her living arrangements paid for, along with her cell phone bill, and weekly expenses, along with I'm sure a nice chunk of change), but incredibly shi*ty to their ensembles and supporting players. Since they're on a different contract with Equity, the union, they don't ahve to pay their chorus members that much. It's a lot lower.
Jeb Brown (Vince), Susan Blommaert (Lynch), and Stephen Buntrock (Angel) are getting at least $1500, whereas someone like Max or Laura are probably getting between $2500 and $6000/wk. I've also heard that their living expenses aren't thrown in.
One would think that the people who are actually selling the tickets, in this case, Max and Laura, would be fairly remunerated.
I used to know a Broadway producer, who worked mostly as a casting director, and he said that he had to get the actor he wanted as cheaply as possible. Something like putting a featured player's name in a box could get him to agree to less money.
It was reported that Lane and Broderick were paid $70,000/wk each the first year, and $100,000/wk each for the return engagement. That seems impossible, given the $500,000-$600,000 nut... unless the St. James is really big. I remember it being about the same as the Atkinson.
When Lane and Broderick returned to The Producers, the show had already made it's money back, perhaps 2 or 3 times over.
$70k/wk for their initial run seems a bit much, perhaps it was in the range of $25-50k. They did receive a significantly larger amount (about $100k/wk), plus a cut of the profit, for their return. The St. James is a huge theater, 3 levels, about 1600 seats.
The show made an average of about $1.5 million/wk when they returned.
Wow, 5 minutes on stage, 8 times a week for $1500 isn't all that bad. It's nice to know that these actors are well compensated when they DO make it.
I remember the moment when I finally decided to quit acting. I had just gotten home from a shoot for a TV movie (as a "principal extra", whatever that meant). I was gone from my husband and dogs for 3 whole days and received something around $1000. The following day, I went to an open call for Phantom of the Opera, waited for the entire day and got to sing 8 bars. That same day, I also received an illustration job that would pay $5000 and only took me a day to finish. It just felt silly at that point to continue acting, so I quit.
I have so much respect and admiration for the people who have made it on Broadway, and even more for the ones trying to get there (like the waiters at Stardust). I left NY realizing that even if I had an ounce of talent then, I never had the drive or the determination. So my goal now is make a habit of visiting NY and participate as an audience member!
How do people do it then?? Do some take on side jobs? What if you have a family to provide for? Especially when you don't even know where/when your next job will come.
From reading different actor's bio and interview, I seem to remember some of them having multiple projects going on at once, like Cheyanne Jackson, though appearing on Xanadu, just finished a TV pilot. Is that how they keep the money coming?
Most actors who haven't "made it" and even some who have, have day jobs. Some make enough money to invest, most do something else, a variety of things, while waiting for that call back. Yes, some do commercials, voice overs and the like, but others do temp work, sell makeup, give dance lessons, etc. etc.
Forgot the exact percentage of Equity union members that are working in any venue (Broadway, off Broadway, tours, other Equity theaters across the USA) but it is less than 30% of the total membership is working, although not always at the same rate of pay as Broadway theaters. There are contracts that pay much less.
Most actors are grateful to have a gig and appreciate being employed. Most of the people on this chat board seem to know the "names" which in reality are a small group, but many others just struggling to stay in the profession they love.
Thanks for sharing your wonderful experiences with us!
I will be in New York for about 8 days the 2nd week of December mostly on business but I'm not leaving till I see Max and Laura in Grease (everyone is on notice). I just can't wait!
So I'm still looking for tickets. You sat in both the orchestra section and the front mezzanine. Which seats did you prefer? I can't make up my mind if it would be better to be close up or have a better "overall" view.
There don't appear to be tickets available through ticketmaster so I'm looking at stub hub (thanks Karidaberixx for the tip). There are seats available in both sections (yikes the prices!!) and I need to get tickets in hand.
Mrs. Zuko, I'm actually kicking myself for not taking more pictures. I was so star struck. All I did was stare at them and ask for their autographs... Haha. I do have a few with myself in it, which I'm not comfortable posting here. PM me if you want to see them.
Max Star, I'm SOOOOOOOO jealous!!! Can I work for you and tag along?!?! I think the better seat would be front mezzanine, center of course if you can get it. If I had my pick, I'd have gotten orchestra center seat around row 7 or 8. This way you're close enough and still get an overall view! Good luck! You're going to have so much fun!
LOL, Be careful what you wish for since I may want to take you up on it! (It would be so much fun to see this with real Max and Laura fans.) Thanks for your suggestions. I think I'm going to try to get Orchestra Center row G or so. But you know, I'll sit anywhere at this point!
I had hoped to get a group of friends to go but was not successful (they did not see GYTOTIW) and they just can't commit (and it is a lot of expense coming from CA) so this trip is probably my only chance. As it is, I will be "dragging" my biz partner (best friend too) to the show but she thinks I have lost it and is merely being a placatingly good friend. I periodically go into her office and try to force feed youtube clips of Max and Laura on her--last time she looked up at me and said "Just get this straight--I'm not a Max Crum fan." It was like a dagger to my heart. (But i think the timing just was bad!! And I really believe she will love it (and Max)). Now I have to figure out how to get her to wait at the stage door!
Oh Max Star, I totally understand your pain!!! Everyone thinks I've lost it already. I can't count how many times they've rolled their eyes at me. One time my neighbor saw my 3-year-old son playing outside and asked what his mom was doing, and he answered, "Mommy's busy watching Max on the 'puter!" Even my kids' teachers knew and laughed when I showed up in a "Rydell High" t-shirt after I got home from NY. I was able to convince my sister to go to NY with me though she didn't watch the show regularly. And then I was able to make her see the show twice!! She was such a good sport though, went to the stagedoor and even got a pic of herself with Max with his arm around her!!!!! I don't think she's a converted fan yet, but I know she LOVED the show.
I'd LOVE to go back if they ever announce a last day for Max and Laura. Wouldn't it be great to get all the die-hard fans there to give them a big send-off? Anyway, keep me posted on what you end up doing with the tickets. Glad to hear that I wasn't the only one who flew out from CA to see them!