Just got home from the show

Eris · Guru

Just got home from the show

Ray · Senior Member

"You people SANG the entire show...." and then they didn't even stand for the curtain call. Pardon me, but that's hysterical!!!! Cameras flashing during BSD...ushers running around...I love that kind of excitement. Sounds like it was more trial than treat for you, huh? I always sit up in the front mezz...better view, better neighbors. Thanks for the review.

Eris · Guru

Ray wrote:
"You people SANG the entire show...." and then they didn't even stand for the curtain call. Pardon me, but that's hysterical!!!! Cameras flashing during BSD...ushers running around...I love that kind of excitement. Sounds like it was more trial than treat for you, huh? I always sit up in the front mezz...better view, better neighbors. Thanks for the review.

I failed to see the humor when I discovered that they'd pulled the back of my shirt so low that the entire back of my bra was exposed to all of NYC. It had hooked underneath due to the tugging and I didn't discover this until I got home and it was pointed out to me.

I sat in the front mezzanine the first time I saw the show and the second time I was in Row A but on the right side. I was on the aisle then so I had no issues seeing anything. But this time I was a few seats in and it made all the difference. I didn't miss a WHOLE lot. Just a few things here and there. But I also got to see some stuff that I wouldn't have seen otherwise. I could see the stage crew which was interesting. And then the thing with Frenchie which I would have missed had I sat anywhere else. It's give and take really.

And I don't mind excitement. I'm as exciteable as the next person but the cameras really ought to be put away while the show's going on. Taylor poses for pictures after the show. Besides, those pictures aren't going to come out well anyway. Is breaking the law and distracting the people around you as well as the cast worth a fuzzy picture?

-- Edited by Eris at 07:43, 2008-06-18

Maria15 · Veteran Member

hey did u take pics at SD?

Hells Sink · Veteran Member

Thanks, Eris, I'm glad you enjoyed most of the show. You were much kinder to the sing-alongers and shirt-pullers than I would have been, especially the shirt-pullers.

"Please remember how distracting it is to the actors (mainly me lol) when people take video and pix during the show. Not to mention it is totally jus wrong on so many levels. Takes away from the show. Theatre is meant to bee seen live. I know some of you think you are good at hiding...but your not. We see you. I immediately takes an actor out of the show. Please respect this. I know you like to share but..."

--- Constantine Maroulis, on his blog

-- Edited by Hells Sink at 11:41, 2008-06-18

-- Edited by Hells Sink at 11:42, 2008-06-18

StockardFan · Senior Member

Oh Eris........I'm glad you enjoyed most of the show. But it sounds like there were some annoying overzealous people there that took away from your enjoyment.

You were much more gracious than I.........I would have told said singing alongers to shut their pie holes up!

BBS420 · Guru

Ray wrote:
"You people SANG the entire show...." and then they didn't even stand for the curtain call. Pardon me, but that's hysterical!!!! Cameras flashing during BSD...ushers running around...I love that kind of excitement. Sounds like it was more trial than treat for you, huh? I always sit up in the front mezz...better view, better neighbors. Thanks for the review.

I have seats for the middle mez, row b, are those good?

BroadwayStar · Senior Member

Eris at least for the most part you enjoyed the performance. Agree with StockardFan, I've found that there are ALWAYS annoying people no matter where you go; concerts, movie and live production theatres, graduations, weddings etc

I look over at them a couple of times, then a humble semi-smile

and if that doesn't work I beat them up (no I don't just joking but would like to though)

Have Row A right stage, hope I'll be able to see okay (August)

Have 1st row Mezz for next weekend (good orchestra seats were gone)

Thanks for the recap and good luck on your new job!

BBS420 · Guru

I'll have to put duct tape on hubby, he loves to sing during performances.

Aragall · Senior Member

BBS420 wrote:
I'll have to put duct tape on hubby, he loves to sing during performances.

BBS, you crack me up! ***LOL***

Tay4me · Veteran Member

StockardFan wrote:
Oh Eris........I'm glad you enjoyed most of the show. But it sounds like there were some annoying overzealous people there that took away from your enjoyment.

You were much more gracious than I.........I would have told said singing alongers to shut their pie holes up!

I would assume if people were singing along, it proves that they're having a great time.

DogsandBirds · Guru

BBS420 wrote:
Ray wrote:
"You people SANG the entire show...." and then they didn't even stand for the curtain call. Pardon me, but that's hysterical!!!! Cameras flashing during BSD...ushers running around...I love that kind of excitement. Sounds like it was more trial than treat for you, huh? I always sit up in the front mezz...better view, better neighbors. Thanks for the review.

I have seats for the middle mez, row b, are those good?

Excellent. The theater is small so it most seats are great. I have sat on the right side towards the back, center orchestra, front row center mezz, left side towards the front and all of the seats where great.

DogsandBirds · Guru

Tay4me wrote:
StockardFan wrote:
Oh Eris........I'm glad you enjoyed most of the show. But it sounds like there were some annoying overzealous people there that took away from your enjoyment.

You were much more gracious than I.........I would have told said singing alongers to shut their pie holes up!

I would assume if people were singing along, it proves that they're having a great time.

If they were having such a good time, why no standing ovation? Rudeness intolerable at the theater. It's not as if you can get and move to another seat like the movies. I didn't pay the money to hear some audience member sing, I want to hear the actors! And don't touch me unless you know me, nevermind pulling on my clothes! They are lucky it was you sitting there. If it was me, I would have had them arrested for assault.

Picture taking, besides being ILLEGAL, distracting to the actors, etc. can actually be dangerous to the actors if they get blinded for even a second by a flash, since they have to move or dance around sets, props and each other. No actor wants to be out because of an injury, particularly caused by some random fan wanting a picture and not caring about those on the stage or those in the area around them. It could even be career ending for a dancer.

-- Edited by DogsandBirds at 15:27, 2008-06-18

Hello799 · Senior Member

It starting to happen more and more sandybeach......One question for you though. If TH can sell tickets or fill seats, would you rather that the show closes early because it doesn't fill enough seats???? I'm not a TH fan of broadway....I do like TH, I am just not sold on his talent for broadway as of yet.......But who knows, he's just starting and maybe it will grow on him. I do like Grease and some of the performers and if thats what it takes to keep the show going, well then, PLEASE....by all means, stunt cast for that 4 minute part!!!!!

greasefan · Senior Member

Eris, thanks for sharing your experience. This may be a good reason why I should keep my Oct visit as my only one. I was hoping to see the show one last time, but it sounds like I maybe wasting money and not enjoy the show to its full degree. I'm sorry you had several uncomfortable circumstances.

BBS420 · Guru

thanks.

DogsandBirds · Guru

greasefan wrote:
Eris, thanks for sharing your experience. This may be a good reason why I should keep my Oct visit as my only one. I was hoping to see the show one last time, but it sounds like I maybe wasting money and not enjoy the show to its full degree. I'm sorry you had several uncomfortable circumstances.

Please reconsider. There will be a new cast and I am sure the hysterics will start to fade.

Eris · Guru

BroadwayStar wrote:
Have Row A right stage, hope I'll be able to see okay (August)

If you're close to the aisle you'll be great but if you're close to the wall you may miss some stuff. I sat row A right on the aisle in January and it was great.

BBS420 · Guru

Aragall wrote:
BBS420 wrote:
I'll have to put duct tape on hubby, he loves to sing during performances.

BBS, you crack me up! ***LOL***

and he can't sing

Nonie · Veteran Member

StockardFan wrote:

Oh Eris........I'm glad you enjoyed most of the show. But it sounds like there were some annoying overzealous people there that took away from your enjoyment.

You were much more gracious than I.........I would have told said singing alongers to shut their pie holes up!

Unfortunately, I think annoying people attend every public event. Have you been to a sports event lately? Or out to dinner surrounded by people talking as loud as they can on cell phones and/or allowing children to turn somersaults on the floor near your table? I've even read about fights breaking out at rock concerts and that being "acceptable" behavior. weirdface

My mom loved Shakesperian plays. Here's a quote from Henry VIII epilogue:

"Tis ten to one this play can never please
All that are here".

I'm sure the majority of Grease patrons enjoy the play and their time in the theater, even if they are unlucky enough to be sitting near overzealous fans. smile

StockardFan · Senior Member

I was just responding to what Eris said, I'm not sure why you are quoting my post.

Nonie · Veteran Member

StockardFan wrote:

I was just responding to what Eris said, I'm not sure why you are quoting my post.

I assume you are talking to me, even though you didn't quote me. I think your comment about telling people to "shut their pie hole up" caught my attention and it reminded me of the rude people I've encountered in most public events. That's all, just making conversation and agreeing with you that pubic manners are not always highly visible these days.

StockardFan · Senior Member

Oh gotcha. I misunderstood your post - sorry.

Ray · Senior Member

Eris wrote:

I failed to see the humor when I discovered that they'd pulled the back of my shirt so low that the entire back of my bra was exposed to all of NYC. It had hooked underneath due to the tugging and I didn't discover this until I got home and it was pointed out to me.

Sorry... I was in a late night, giddy mood, and the picture of mindless jerks singing the entire show got me laughing. There were probably empty seats on a Tuesday night. If I had been in your place, I would have moved in a hurry.

Eris · Guru

Ray wrote:
There were probably empty seats on a Tuesday night. If I had been in your place, I would have moved in a hurry.

There wasn't because I had been looking

-- Edited by Eris at 18:55, 2008-06-19

Tay4me · Veteran Member

Eris wrote:
Ray wrote:
There were probably empty seats on a Tuesday night. If I had been in your place, I would have moved in a hurry.
There wasn't because I had been looking

-- Edited by Eris at 18:55, 2008-06-19

If there weren't any empty seats, the show must have been sold out. Was there an usher you could get to control those people in back of you? Unfortunately, there seems to be some people like this at many event that don't control themselves.

Eris · Guru

Unless people are being out and out horrible getting an usher can often big more of a disturbance. They weren't yelling the words along but they were loud enough that I could hear them sitting in front of them. To me it wasn't worth getting an usher. I could ignore them well enough. I didn't get really angry until they started touching me.

-- Edited by Eris at 19:22, 2008-06-19

Mistyblu · Member

"Do the Clay Aiken fans do this at Spamalot? I haven't heard anything about this. I have heard that Clay is quite good though-now THAT is a voice that works for Broadway!"

Clay put a blog on his fan message board warning fans (i'm one) about this type of behavior before he even started in the role. He explained about the cameras being dangerous, and asked fans to not call out during the performance, etc. The fans were very well-behaved. Things got a little out of hand at the stage door but not during the performance.

StockardFan · Senior Member

Mistyblu, did you get a chance to see Clay in Spamelot?

I ALMOST got to see it when David Hyde Pearce was in it, but my trip fell through and I ended up giving the tickets to my cousin who lives in Brooklyn.

Mistyblu · Member

StockardFan wrote:
Mistyblu, did you get a chance to see Clay in Spamelot?

I ALMOST got to see it when David Hyde Pearce was in it, but my trip fell through and I ended up giving the tickets to my cousin who lives in Brooklyn.

I did get to go see him in April. He was really very, very good. I loved the show and I loved him in it. I tried to get an autograph at the stage door but that was impossible.

StockardFan · Senior Member

Lucky! I've been dying to see that show. I'm sure he did a great job!

DogsandBirds · Guru

Eris wrote:

Unless people are being out and out horrible getting an usher can often big more of a disturbance. They weren't yelling the words along but they were loud enough that I could hear them sitting in front of them. To me it wasn't worth getting an usher. I could ignore them well enough. I didn't get really angry until they started touching me.

-- Edited by Eris at 19:22, 2008-06-19

In addition to the noise and disruption that calling for an usher causes, most of the ushers are older (and sometimes very old) women. What can you expect them to do other than ask?

Some people do not seem to understand the difference between watching someone do a concert, where people DO sing along, DO call out, DO take pictures to a Broadway show where all these things are inappropriate.

StockardFan · Senior Member

I agree, D&B.

Tay4me · Veteran Member

I'm sorry Eris that you had this problem, and hope your next time seeing Grease will be much better.

-- Edited by Tay4me at 22:40, 2008-06-19

grannygreaser · Senior Member

DogsandBirds wrote:

Some people do not seem to understand the difference between watching someone do a concert, where people DO sing along, DO call out, DO take pictures to a Broadway show where all these things are inappropriate.

Truth, D&B!

Not just Broadway... any stage production! People come to hear the performance, not the audience. And that applies to movies as well. In fact, most times, I would prefer if they didn't sing along at concerts either unless invited to do so.

StockardFan · Senior Member

I guess it depends on the type of concert, but for the most part I agree with you.

I have been at concerts where the band encourages the audience to sing along for example by holding the mic out. But at something like a James Taylor concert or Harry Connick Jr. it would certainly seem inappropriate.

Grease Lightning · Newbie

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

Nonie · Veteran Member

Grease Lightning wrote:

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

How do you know it was Soul Patrol patrons causing the disturbance? It likely was fans of Taylor taking pictures during Beauty School Dropout number, because he is highly recognizable and well liked by many. I doubt that the majority of SP know the words to Grease songs and can sing along. I know that I certainly couldn't. Just sayin'.

Laura4Broadway · Veteran Member

Did you go to the Tuesday evening show? If so, I was at that same performance! Me and my dad came to NYC for a little 2 day thing. We saw Legally Blonde, Mamma Mia, and of course Grease! That's so cool if you were at that same show. What are the odds lol We were in orch row F on the right. I'm not gonna say anything except for I agree with what you are saying about disrespect to the people around you and to the people on stage. I experienced that as well. I'm all for having fun, but they're not at a rock concert.

Eris · Guru

Yes, Tuesday night

BroadwayStar · Senior Member

Okay thanks, third in from aisle, should be okay

Aragall · Senior Member

StockardFan wrote:
I guess it depends on the type of concert, but for the most part I agree with you.

I have been at concerts where the band encourages the audience to sing along for example by holding the mic out. But at something like a James Taylor concert or Harry Connick Jr. it would certainly seem inappropriate.

I've never been to one of Harry's concert's, though I adore him. I've been to 4 of James Taylor's, and I recall most of the crowd singing along to several songs. I remember him encouraging the crowd on Sweet Baby James. I love JT's music, too.

BroadwayStar · Senior Member

Grease Lightning wrote:
Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

I'm a TH fan and I'm not embarrassed. Can't control everyone in the world and certainly would not attempt to try. I've seen strange things go on in the audience at the 20+ bdway shows that I've been to. Rude people are just rude and I can guarantee that TH fans do not hold the exclusivity rights, there are a couple in every crowd. I don't know every word to all of the Grease songs and I've seen it on Bdway 2X, the movies 2X and am going 2 more times.

Hard to categorize ALL of Taylor's fans as "they." I'm me and responsible for myself.

Aragall · Senior Member

BroadwayStar wrote:
Grease Lightning wrote:
Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

I'm a TH fan and I'm not embarrassed. Can't control everyone in the world and certainly would not attempt to try. I've seen strange things go on in the audience at the 20+ bdway shows that I've been to. Rude people are just rude and I can guarantee that TH fans do not hold the exclusivity rights, there are a couple in every crowd. I don't know every word to all of the Grease songs and I've seen it on Bdway 2X, the movies 2X and am going 2 more times.

Hard to categorize ALL of Taylor's fans as "they." I'm me and responsible for myself.

Brava, BroadwayStar! Very well put!

Muzelover · Veteran Member

Nonie wrote:

Grease Lightning wrote:

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

How do you know it was Soul Patrol patrons causing the disturbance? It likely was fans of Taylor taking pictures during Beauty School Dropout number, because he is highly recognizable and well liked by many. I doubt that the majority of SP know the words to Grease songs and can sing along. I know that I certainly couldn't. Just sayin'.

So what you're saying is that the Soul Patrol doesn't "know" music and not familiar with classic musicals, and could not know the words. Hmmmm...

Nonie · Veteran Member

Muzelover wrote:

Nonie wrote:

Grease Lightning wrote:

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

How do you know it was Soul Patrol patrons causing the disturbance? It likely was fans of Taylor taking pictures during Beauty School Dropout number, because he is highly recognizable and well liked by many. I doubt that the majority of SP know the words to Grease songs and can sing along. I know that I certainly couldn't. Just sayin'.

So what you're saying is that the Soul Patrol doesn't "know" music and not familiar with classic musicals, and could not know the words. Hmmmm...

No, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that, unlike Taylor concerts, I am not familiar with the all of the words to the music in Grease. Am I familiar with it? Of course. Do I enjoy classical musicals? Of course, and they are my favorite theater and movie productions. I was just suggesting that the people who sang all of the lyrics to Grease were not necessarily Soul Patrol, but primarily Grease fans. I think it would be extremely presumptious to think all the rude (or over-zealous) patrons at the performance were Taylor fans.

As I stated in my post, "I know I couldn't" sing all the words of Grease songs. I certainly did not mean to cast any suggestion that "Soul patrol doesn't 'know' music and are not 'familiar with classic musicals'". Sorry that you got that impression, is it certainly not what I meant.

Jewell · Veteran Member

Nonie wrote:
Muzelover wrote:

Nonie wrote:

Grease Lightning wrote:

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

How do you know it was Soul Patrol patrons causing the disturbance? It likely was fans of Taylor taking pictures during Beauty School Dropout number, because he is highly recognizable and well liked by many. I doubt that the majority of SP know the words to Grease songs and can sing along. I know that I certainly couldn't. Just sayin'.

So what you're saying is that the Soul Patrol doesn't "know" music and not familiar with classic musicals, and could not know the words. Hmmmm...

No, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that, unlike Taylor concerts, I am not familiar with the all of the words to the music in Grease. Am I familiar with it? Of course. Do I enjoy classical musicals? Of course, and they are my favorite theater and movie productions. I was just suggesting that the people who sang all of the lyrics to Grease were not necessarily Soul Patrol, but primarily Grease fans. I think it would be extremely presumptious to think all the rude (or over-zealous) patrons at the performance were Taylor fans.

As I stated in my post, "I know I couldn't" sing all the words of Grease songs. I certainly did not mean to cast any suggestion that "Soul patrol doesn't 'know' music and are not 'familiar with classic musicals'". Sorry that you got that impression, is it certainly not what I meant.

I agree with what you're saying about it not necessarily being Taylor's fans that were singing along to all of the songs. In fact I really doubt that it was. It could have been anyone. I wouldn't sing along at a musical and I know all of the lyrics to the Grease songs.

DogsandBirds · Guru

People should not assume that a poster is indicating anything negative about a TH fan. We are talking about people in general and their behavior at a concert in comparison to a Broadway show.

Of note, it appears that a few TH fans are reading much to much into posts and taking umberage where no insult is intended.

Jewell · Veteran Member

DogsandBirds wrote:
People should not assume that a poster is indicating anything negative about a TH fan. We are talking about people in general and their behavior at a concert in comparison to a Broadway show.

Of note, it appears that a few TH fans are reading much to much into posts and taking umberage where no insult is intended.

Grease Lightning specifically said TH fans.

-- Edited by Jewell at 18:04, 2008-06-20

Muzelover · Veteran Member

Nonie wrote:

Muzelover wrote:

Nonie wrote:

Grease Lightning wrote:

Eris - So sorry to hear about your experience. I am a TH fan and I AM embarrased by the behavior of some of the members of our fan base. They should respect the fact that they are in theater and follow the rules. They should also do it for Taylor, if no one else. It's embarrasing for him to hear reports of this behavior. Thanks to all the people on this forum who have been so gracious to allow the TH fans to visit.

How do you know it was Soul Patrol patrons causing the disturbance? It likely was fans of Taylor taking pictures during Beauty School Dropout number, because he is highly recognizable and well liked by many. I doubt that the majority of SP know the words to Grease songs and can sing along. I know that I certainly couldn't. Just sayin'.

So what you're saying is that the Soul Patrol doesn't "know" music and not familiar with classic musicals, and could not know the words. Hmmmm...

No, that's not what I'm saying. I am saying that, unlike Taylor concerts, I am not familiar with the all of the words to the music in Grease. Am I familiar with it? Of course. Do I enjoy classical musicals? Of course, and they are my favorite theater and movie productions. I was just suggesting that the people who sang all of the lyrics to Grease were not necessarily Soul Patrol, but primarily Grease fans. I think it would be extremely presumptious to think all the rude (or over-zealous) patrons at the performance were Taylor fans.

As I stated in my post, "I know I couldn't" sing all the words of Grease songs. I certainly did not mean to cast any suggestion that "Soul patrol doesn't 'know' music and are not 'familiar with classic musicals'". Sorry that you got that impression, is it certainly not what I meant.

Thank you for the clarification...no need to apologize! Sometimes it's hard to tell the gist of the meaning by written word. Thanks! blankstare